12:02:29 From Randy Strobl to Everyone: Thank you for hosting this! 12:02:30 From David Lee to Everyone: Good morning folks. David Lee/AZPM News Director 12:03:40 From Nikki Jones to Host and panelists: Hi Sharahn and Erica! Nikki Jones, ex-Nipper, signing in from sunny Denver! Great to see y’all! 12:03:42 From SeVern SeVern to Everyone: Hello from South Dakota! 12:03:44 From Dave Gustafson to Everyone: Hello from Wisconsin Public Radio! 12:03:45 From christy may to Everyone: Greetings from Buffalo Toronto Public Media. 12:03:49 From Nancy Marshall Genzer to Everyone: Hello everyone - Nancy Marshall Genzer from Marketplace 12:03:49 From Rik Panganiban to Everyone: Rik Panganiban, San Francisco, CA 12:03:51 From Katherine Kelly to Everyone: Hello from Michigan! 12:03:51 From Kelly Nickerson to Everyone: Hello from WRVO in Oswego, NY! 12:03:55 From Patty Mester to Everyone: Chris Brown, Production Manager at PBS North in Duluth, MN 12:03:55 From James Long to Everyone: Hello from Sacramento! 12:03:55 From Michael Toland to Everyone: Good afternoon from Austin, Texas. 12:03:57 From Brenda Bowyer to Everyone: Hello from northern Indiana 12:03:58 From Mark Riechers to Everyone: Greetings from Wisconsin (by way of my remote office in snowy MN) 12:03:58 From Josh Lusby to Everyone: Hello from CET Cincinnati. 12:03:59 From Marissa Blahnik to Everyone: Hello from TPT in Minnesota 12:04:00 From Gretchen Brown to Host and panelists: minnesota public radio! 12:04:01 From Grace Ingold to Everyone: hello from WJCT in Jacksonville, FL 12:04:05 From Nikki Jones to Everyone: Greetings from Rocky Mountain Public Media in sunny Colorado! 12:04:08 From Erika Soderstrom to Everyone: Hiya from Marketplace in LA 12:04:12 From Alexa Elliott to Everyone: Hi from South Florida 🙂 12:04:12 From Susan Rosen to Everyone: Hello from GBH in Boston 12:04:13 From Rebecca Smith to Everyone: WABE in Atlanta in the house! 12:04:13 From Derek Roberto to Everyone: Hello from Arlington, VA 12:04:13 From Darryl Moses to Everyone: Hello from Southern Illinois 12:04:14 From Jonathan Zagel to Everyone: Hello from Minnesota Public Radio! 12:04:14 From Debra Adams Simmons to Everyone: Hello from GBH in Boston! 12:04:14 From Gil Ng to Everyone: Good morning! I'm Gil Ng, dialing in from LAist in Pasadena, CA. 12:04:14 From Amber Samdahl to Everyone: Public Media Innovators: https://publicmediainnovators.org 12:04:15 From Greg Petersen to Everyone: Hello from WPSU, State College, Pa. 12:04:15 From Chelsea Ihle to Everyone: Hello from MPR in MN 12:04:17 From Robert Holt to Everyone: Hello from Maine Public via Tampa, FL! 12:04:18 From Jackie Bruleigh (she/her) to Everyone: Hi there! joining in Boston 12:04:29 From Natasha Thompson to Everyone: Hello from Vestal, NY! 12:04:30 From Amber Samdahl to Everyone: Public Media Innovators Newsletter: https://publicmediainnovators.beehiiv.com/ 12:04:44 From Tony Marcano to Everyone: Good morning from The California Newsroom -- I'm based in LA, but we're statewide 12:04:50 From Randy Strobl to Everyone: Hello from Detroit PBS! 12:04:55 From Dagoberto Patlan to Everyone: Hi, I'm an AI assistant helping Dagoberto Patlan take notes for this meeting. Follow along the transcript here: https://otter.ai/u/B7x-mPtsIV-6qGzq8V4uj0Cet-s?utm_source=va_chat_link_1 You can see screenshots and add highlights and comments. After the meeting, you'll get a summary and action items. If you'd like to stop this recording, you can go to the link above and click the Stop button. If you'd like to stop the recordings for all Otter Notetakers in this meeting, you can type "otter stop" in Zoom chat. 12:05:11 From Susan Cadot to Everyone: Hi from OKC 12:05:54 From Carl Zornes to Everyone: Hi from GPB 12:07:02 From Phoebe Taylor Vuolo to Everyone: Hi everybody! from WSKG in upstate NY 12:07:41 From Lori Townsend to Everyone: Hello from Alaska Public Media! 12:08:01 From Emily Hanford to Everyone: Hi. I work for APM/MPR. Based in DC area. 12:08:04 From Nicole Cox to Everyone: Hello from AZPM in Tucson! 12:08:43 From John Vieth to Everyone: Hello from PBS Wisconsin! 12:09:22 From Kristina Killingsworth to Everyone: Hello from KLRN San Antonio! 12:11:16 From Molly Samuel to Everyone: Can NPR share that new AI guidance with member stations? Would be very helpful! 12:11:21 From Amber Samdahl to Everyone: https://www.npr.org/ethics 12:11:32 From Erica Osher to Everyone: https://www.npr.org/about-npr/1205385162/special-section-generative-artificial-intelligence 12:12:41 From Gabriel Eckers to Everyone: Greetings from Minneapolis from APM/MPR! 12:16:21 From Brenda Bowyer to Everyone: What are some strategies to transform the perception of AI as a digital assistant away from the negative connotations not only for the public but also within our organization? 12:17:14 From Brenda Bowyer to Everyone: Sharahn - TRINT for transcription services https://trint.com/ 12:17:56 From Rik Panganiban to Everyone: Question: I'm developing resources for teachers and students on AI and education. How can stations educate and inform our public about the possibilities and dangers of GenAI? 12:18:51 From Greg Petersen to Everyone: Should we be inventing in the time and resources to train people in just how to use AI? We all know that a poorly implemented query, will result in a poor answer. GIGO. 12:19:37 From Greg Petersen to Everyone: That’s “Investing in the time …” 12:19:55 From Nancy Marshall Genzer to Everyone: I've been trying to develop an AI tool that would sweep social media to find "ordinary people" to interview. I haven't had any success so far, although I know the NY Times has developed a tool like this. Does anyone have any ideas on how to accomplish this? 12:20:36 From Phoebe Taylor Vuolo to Everyone: Do you all have thoughts on public media stations using AI-generated voices specifically? I know many stations and news outlets use other iterations of GAI tools but I know as someone who works in radio, using AI voices (whether for newscasts or promotional spots) can feels like a bit of a red line for many of us. But unsure whether that's reflective of the way the larger industry feels. 12:20:57 From Emily Hanford to Everyone: One piece of guidance we have gotten is that we should assume anything we put into an AI tool like ChatGPT is public cause it could be public. That means it really couldn’t be used as much of a tool for a reporter because you would not want the questions you ask and the documents you look at in the course of your reporting to be public. So - what to do with that? How can reporters use AI tools with this caveat? 12:21:12 From Derek Roberto to Everyone: Are there ways/approaches you are taking to track and or mitigate the environmental impact of your AI usage? 12:21:26 From Josh Lusby to Everyone: How do you land on an official “sanctioned” AI tool to use within an organization to avoid “Shadow AI” use, specifically from an IT and security perspective? For instance, using Microsoft Copilot because we are already in the Microsoft Office ecosystem? Is there any security or risk with other popular ones like Gemini or ChatGPT? 12:22:45 From Alisa Bittner to Everyone: How can stations share tools, strategies that work well 12:23:01 From Tony Marcano to Everyone: What's NPR's vetting process for determining which AI systems are credible and which aren't? 12:24:12 From Lynn Hatter to Everyone: Increasingly reporters are being called to do more with less--outside of their regular audio, they've got to shoot, edit, produce reels, etc. At some point, it does become a time issue. What is your guidance on using AI to assist in handling tasks like video editing, etc.? It's not replacing the journalist, but it could help save a lot of time. 12:25:46 From Ray Hollister to Everyone: No one remembers who was first, but everyone remembers who got it wrong. That is sage advice. And ironically, there’s no tangible benefit to being the first to implement AI right now, Everything is turbo-leapfrogging each other. The product/service that comes out in two weeks will be better than what was released this week. That being said, I’m a super early adopter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:26:32 From Derek Roberto to Everyone: What is your strategy to counter the onslaught of “slop” that is proliferating? 12:26:53 From Brenda Bowyer to Everyone: but because some media outlets make it appear that being first does matter, how do you change the perception of the public as far as breaking stories? 12:28:10 From Phoebe Taylor Vuolo to Everyone: Can you talk a little about when/how to disclose the use of AI? Should stations always disclose when they've used AI tools in any way? 12:28:36 From Tim Olson to Everyone: Here are some Gen AI Guidelines for youth media making and educators from KQED Education. https://youthmedia.kqed.org/gen-ai-guidelines 12:30:05 From Rik Panganiban to Host and panelists: Thanks for responding , Erica. Happy to connect rpanganiban@kqed.org. 12:30:10 From Alessandra Magistrali to Everyone: What AI training tools or programs are you using, and how are you delivering the training (workshops, self-paced, etc.)? 12:30:24 From Rik Panganiban to Host and panelists: Here’s the courses we’ve developed and are refreshing now. https://teach.kqed.org/p/genai 12:31:25 From Rik Panganiban to Everyone: Thanks for responding, Erica. Here’s the resources for teachers and students KQED is developing. https://teach.kqed.org/p/genai 12:31:30 From Alisa Bittner to Everyone: Judgement! 12:32:00 From Lauren Komrosky to Everyone: Can you share training materials? 12:32:48 From Mark Riechers to Everyone: On training staff - I’ve actually started putting the Ethics policy for WPM into the context of many of the AI tools I’ve built out, so the AI itself does gentle nudging toward what we’ve categorized as ethical use cases. The idea is that if the AI system is asked to do something problematic, they will at least nudge back on the user. 12:33:52 From SeVern SeVern to Everyone: Interested in hearing how others are leveraging AI to assist in meeting the new ADA Web Content Accessibility Compliance. https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/ For audio transcripts, Alt Text on media and photos, etc. April 2026 deadline for publicly owned stations that serve 50K plus population. 12:35:36 From Kristian Knutsen to Everyone: Are there discussions at NPR about audience assumptions and expectations about AI tools in terms of consideration about how as generated content is embraced by commercial media organizations, there are potential opportunities brand-wise to differentiate public media as a human-driven enterprise? 12:36:54 From Dagoberto Patlan to Everyone: Dagoberto is on a Basic Otter plan with 30 minute meetings. To record longer meetings, upgrade to Pro: https://otter.ai/pricing?utm_source=oa-chat-basic 12:38:18 From Andrew Murray to Everyone: I would love a living, breathing document or webpage that has these tools that have been vetted that station can access, along with a rundown of how NPR is using them. The amount of tools are overwhelming for so many, and I think the chance to look at a general description, and we can make determinations on what to dive into and fully learn would be helpful for smaller stations. The overview of AI is great, but there needs to be a connection between best practices and actual implementation on the station side. 12:39:58 From Emily Hanford to Everyone: It seems like maybe you can’t really use the tools unless your org has invested in something safe and vatted? 12:40:08 From Emily Hanford to Everyone: vetted 12:42:19 From Mark Riechers to Everyone: With tools like Claude Code, I’m not even sure how you would do “vetting” — you can vet Anthropic and the basic functionality of their AI models, but that tool can help you scaffold and deploy apps and tools that leverage pretty much any open source project you can find. 12:45:08 From Rebecca Smith to Everyone: Seconding Andrew ^^^ – perhaps some sort of public media AI cohort? I know that’s a lot to ask, but as you can see, we all have a lot of questions and experiences to share. And Erica, Sharahn and Tony’s expertise and guidance have been so helpful! 12:45:20 From Emily Hanford to Everyone: Can reporters use stuff safely if they are using the paid versions? 12:46:03 From Emily Hanford to Everyone: It doesn’t seem clear to me that a paid version is necessarily more private. Am I wrong? 12:46:14 From Robert Holt to Everyone: It depends on the terms of use. 12:46:50 From Robert Holt to Everyone: And the ability to opt out of using your data for training. 12:50:53 From Kristina Killingsworth to Everyone: It is a HUGE conversation in central and south Texas. Massive centers and weighing against our current water concerns. 12:51:06 From Mark Riechers to Everyone: This is a really basic thing you can do for a lot of task: add “explore options to achieve this with a script on my computer” to prompts that are especially data or math-heavy 12:51:58 From Brenda Bowyer to Everyone: @kristina, also a huge conversation in the Great Lakes region 13:04:06 From Robyn Hazen to Everyone: That’s a great point, Tony. Thanks for your insight. 13:09:54 From Amber Samdahl to Everyone: Thank you, SeVern: https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/ 13:12:41 From Derek Roberto to Everyone: Thank you 13:14:57 From Erica Osher to Everyone: Here is the Decoder episode I mentioned https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reality-is-losing-the-deepfake-war/id1011668648?i=1000748349731 13:15:21 From Derek Roberto to Everyone: Thanks! 13:21:36 From Tim Olson to Everyone: FYI, Google News Initiative has a series of free trainings, including some focused on journalism - https://newsinitiative.withgoogle.com/resources/trainings/ 13:22:28 From Amber Samdahl to Everyone: We have used the Anthropic AI Fluency training. It is not specific to Claude, but applies well across any AI tool: https://anthropic.skilljar.com/ai-fluency-framework-foundations 13:22:48 From Erica Osher to Everyone: i did the MCP training from anthropic and it was great 13:23:37 From Erica Osher to Everyone: i’ve also tried some of these courses and found them impressive https://www.deeplearning.ai/ 13:26:19 From Reagan Doyal to Everyone: It would be cool if NPR or PMI could organize an in-person or virtual conference where stations could get some training on platforms or skills, and then stations could also showcase different workflows and tools they have been implementing. Some thing like that could help stations devote some better resources and time for the expementation you are talking about 13:28:57 From Randy Strobl to Everyone: A conference or cohort would be awesome to connect and progress forward 13:29:12 From Mike Janssen to Everyone: that’s Florent Daudens https://fdaudens.com/en/index.html 13:29:18 From Erica Osher to Everyone: We will bring that feedback back also about traiining and collaboration 13:29:18 From Amber Samdahl to Everyone: SEO + AI webinar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8t42UjO_9E 13:29:23 From Erica Osher to Everyone: Thank you, Mike! 13:29:55 From Rebecca Smith to Everyone: Thank you all for this. So incredibly helpful. 13:29:57 From Phoebe Taylor Vuolo to Everyone: Thank you! 13:29:59 From Brenda Bowyer to Everyone: thanks 13:29:59 From Erika Soderstrom to Everyone: Thank you so much! 13:30:01 From Randy Strobl to Everyone: Thank you! 13:30:05 From Tim Olson to Everyone: thanks 13:30:20 From Greg Petersen to Everyone: Thanks much!